ImmortalGangsta write: omg stfu loser.you come here and pretend to have values,wich by your posts you have none,and whats worse you keep trying to justify it,and yes i do have values wich a sad individual such as yourself will never have if it were up to you you would take everybody down yer depraved life with you.
There we go, people. Just like everyone else who merely likes the sound of their own voice, FUGGLES cannot address a single topic I raised. E.g. 'natural' drugs can mess you up just as much as 'man-made' ones; I am neither promoting nor denigrating the use of drugs, because I know it's pointless; if a person *is* going to do it, they should at least have heard the experience of people who have done a lot of it before.
Still, at least he's not going on about homosexuality in this thread, as he always obsesses on everywhere else. Why does he do that, do we imagine, BTW?
ImmortalGangsta write: You keep talking about my ignorance,but what you don realise is that i grew up around dealers prostitutes junkies etc etc idiot. Your about as intelligent as a coackroach and the only way you can make yourslef feel better about your life is getting other ppl to join yer pathetic exsistence.
Well, elsewhere I certainly have taken you to task for ignorance, but in this particular thread, not yet. Still, thankyou for demonstrating it to us by that statement. It is your moralising I'm criticising here. Why are you so bitter at life? Did you moralise at the "dealers prostitutes junkies etc etc" that you "grew up around" so that even people you considered beneath you didn't like you? Perhaps if you stopped spending so much effort on telling others what they shouldn't do, you could have time to realise what you would like and go have some fun. Become a more cheerful person. People might like you then.
But you're not listening, because you think I'm beneath you too. I am very happy.
omg stfu loser.you come here and pretend to have values,wich by your posts you have none,and whats worse you keep trying to justify it,and yes i do have values wich a sad individual such as yourself will never have if it were up to you you would take everybody down yer depraved life with you.
You keep talking about my ignorance,but what you don realise is that i grew up around dealers prostitutes junkies etc etc idiot.
Your about as intelligent as a coackroach and the only way you can make yourslef feel better about your life is getting other ppl to join yer pathetic exsistence.
I'm not promoting drugs, FUGGLES. I'm simply stating my knowledge. If a person wants to try drug taking, they will. Best that they have the benefit of the experience of those who have done it before, eh?
BTW, I've "g[o]t a needle shove[d] it in [my] arm and overdose[d] on it and die[d]" several times. Thankfully for me and those who know me, I have been fortunate enough to have the kind of friends that would take considerable risks with their own liberty to ensure my resuscitation.
It must be awful to know that it is the 'moral' stances you take that prevent you from having such friends, whilst those you consider degenerate enjoy profound relationships. You see, nobody can trust a bigot, because everyone can tell, even if it is just on an instinctive level, that a person with such confused boundaries over the doings of others is actually just trying to distract themselves from their own problems and is just as likely to turn on them, at some future point.
"Boundaries" is the term used to describe where one person stops and another begins, for anyone who is wondering. Without healthy boundaries, a person is confused by what is their responsibility and what is not. But then, if you don't know psychological terms now and get into some serious head-bending drug abuse, you will eventually, because you will almost certainly require counselling or full-on psychiatric help at some point - lol! No bad thing either. It's amazing how fucked up most people who think they are ok actually are. Take ForrestGumpsta here as a good example!
fuk your a total wanker prescila,your 40 years old promoting the use of drugs to ppl half your age,if you life is pathetic and fuked up then theres no need to take ppl down your road.
why dont you get a needle shove it in yer arm and overdose on it and die moron.
Speaking as a person who has imbibed a lot of drugs, I'd say that if you are concerned about the mental health aspects of drug taking, 2 that have messed my head up worse than heroin ever did were weed and alcohol. Don't for a moment underestimate how powerful a drug caffeine is either. It's just that the side effects of caffeine abuse are so similar to the normal reaction to our messed up society that not many people even notice that the drug is making them worse.
Psilocybin, Mescalin, Muscarine and Muscimole, or LSA, all natural chemicals readily available by ingesting plants, will mess you up just as much as LSD, which, although present in ergot of rye, is generally considered a "man-made" drug. Unrefined, it's not as easy to take a large dose of the former, certainly, but the trip is just as strong.
Curiously, I found that if you get your mushrooms fresh, with a higher Psilocin content, compared to it's weaker breakdown product Psilocybin, the trip can be gentler on the body and thus less likely to lead to freaking out. Similarly, LSA, the simple Amine of Lysergic Acid, found in Morning Glory vine, is rougher on the body than it's stronger Di-ethylamine cousin, LSD. Muscarine is very poisonous, as well as psychotropic, so Fly Agaric mushrooms should be avoided unless you know how to prepare them properly: even then, it's a bit of a ride alright! Refined Mescalin was much better for me than a natural equivilant, but then I didn't do it often and the cactus I used was the San Pedro, rather than Peyote, so I can't comment on that.
5-10mg of Diazepam (depending on body weight), taken 40mins before ingesting any strong hallucinogens will help to put you in a frame of mind that is less likely to result in a "bad trip" also. You could also try the equivilant of powdered Valerian root (the plant Valium/Diazepam was isolated from), however, this gives you foul smelling burps, so best do more, but 2 hours before taking your trip, so they have chance to wear off.
I myself have only smoked weed. But I know people who have taken drugs in their life. I don't really see the point and I think there certainly is a pre-disposition towards addiction. I have only recently taken up smoking cigarettes again after 6 years and hope I have the strength to give it up again when I choose to.
I always used to have a very strong reaction to anyone who was into drugs, but I suppose old age has mellowed me.
I am beginning to think I would like to experiment, but I'd have to be with someone I really really trusted.
I have been around people tripping and it just seems a bit scary for me. Maybe it was just the person at the time. I certainly won't make any value judgements on those who's life has led them to use. I only hope they have the friends around them to help when they need it most.
Stick just to weed. Maybe a shot of psilocybin every once in a while cant hurt either. Speaking from an organic chemists perspective, stay away from any man made drug. there isn't a single one that doesnt have any horrible side effects.
let me generate a scenerio. A person has lived each year in a different city didn't finish school has had trouble keeping friends and one day discovors the magical substance known as marijuana. At first when you try weed its hard to monitor your own behavor, essentialy you do what others do, they laugh you laugh. So in a sense you may feel a certain "acceptance" amoungst other smokers. But as you smoke, or if you smoke alone you will notice something else. Your thoughts change, paranoia can set in and you think about things youd never thought of before. It can put you into deep thought and detatch you from reality, or it can make you have the time of your life with the right people. Personally I like to smoke alone, it allows me the freedom the get caught up in whatever it is I'm thinking about without worrying about paying attention to other peoples conversations. Weed however is not the cure for boredom, I guess life is. But I've been isolated for the duration of mine, so this is only one perspective. O yea and don't smoke unless your already rich cause it'll eat your income. It's not as addictive as cigarettes or alcohol but it sure as hell costs more.
I've always been known for being very anti drug perrsonally. Though as I have become older I have accepted how common weed is and discovered about 80% of my friends smoke it. Though personally I have no desire to partake in it myself and will just stick with my nicotine and caffine addiction.
i think if its weed so be it its not harming anyone ,but i have lived with someone on drugs and its the pits the lies the debts the effects on everyone else is so bad total waste of space stick to your weed but nything else forget it .you dont need drugs to have fun and if you do your sad .. but eact to there own