Yes he did. He is a Mad ascectic avatar born to kill off the abusive dominance of the jews, but he grew meglomaniacal and declared his Godself as the only doorway to heavan. Now all his victims run around claiming virgins as property, stalking harassing and attacking the enlightened and blasphemising the Goddess. he must return to Godself through Siva Ma soon, or the Chaos and hatred of his sheep (as they are) will only grow worse!
NINE IS TECHNICALLY THE "DEVILS" NUMBER BY THE WAY , I WOULDNT EVEN SAY DEVIL SATAN CAUSE WE ARE ALL OUR OWN SATAN ! WHY IS 9 THE DEVILS # CAUSE IT REPEATS ITSELF. - THE SATANIC RITUALS. WITH MY OWN TWIST
Jesus Christ is a idea, a stupid one at best.
If Jesus was real; I'm suppose to believe he was the first one to ever show compassion,and humility. Fuck off! Stupidest over-rated bullshit I ever read. You want someone to worship try Norman E. Borlaug!The best and only thing to come from our species; this past.present, and future Millennium.
jesus is another reincarnation of the solar messiah, and probably did not even exist. there are only 2 or 3 contemporary writers who even mention jesus and they arent direct links to jesus of nazareth.
people wont let go of their outdated dogmatic principles and ideas, because they are brainwashed from an early age with their parents "values" or belief structure.
there are many "solar messiahs"... horus, gilgamesh, apollo, joseph (old testament), mithra, etc etc ad nauseum.
all of them share the same basic story. miracle birth, son of god, ministries, 12 disciples brothers or lesser gods. crucifiction, resurection.
jesus is in no way new special or any different from the other solar messiahs. its all centered around the zodiac and the "ages".
You may want to check out a book called The Pagan Christ. Basically it states many reasons to believe that Jesus didn't exist and was just in fact modeled on earlier pagan versions of " Christ Consciousness" especially egyptian.
Interesting comment. I'll throw this out there. One of my beliefs is that God established a single truth on the earth, that He taught Adam and Eve when they were cast out of Eden. And that all other religions/ideologies/belief systems have been spawned from this initial truth, having been changed/transformed. On account of this, when studying different paradigms, one may find traces or elements that tie them together. Whether those similarities are born out of human psyche, stem from a single paradigm, or occurred some other way can be decided individually. Anyway, I do think that similarities between pantheons and belief systems should be sufficient to occasion some pondering. Here is where I will try to tie this into the thread...
Jesus, among others, occupies an important role in the world as one who was sent to reestablish lost truths and reorient the world, setting them on the path that was initially laid out by God. The others include, Christian/Judeo prophets such as Noah, Enoch, and Abraham. Other inspired men (according to my peculiar Christian/LDS paradigm) include Buddha, Muhammad, Zoroaster, Confucius, Lao Tzu, Socrates, Plato, the Reformers, essentially anyone who has lifted mankind from a self-serving scrabble for glory/self-adulation. Islam has a similar view, they break down prophets into two categories, rasuls (messenger) and nabis (prophet). A messenger is kind of a supercharged prophet that brought sacred scripture from God and reestablished truth. I personally believe, however, that Jesus Christ was more than a prophet and was the Son of God. I believe that he personally atoned for our sins. If you don't believe that, thats cool, its something that everyone decides for themselves and its up to others to accept and love. Whether or not he truly existed, I believe that that can only be figured out through prayer and meditation, if you have a desire to truly know. Also, I also think that doubt of His existence shouldn't be enough to discard what He taught. Just because I don't believe Pope Benedict XVI is God's representative on earth doesn't mean that I should discard good teachings. Hell, I've had drunks teach me some of my most valuable spiritual lessons. Anyway, thats my two bits :^D
Humm not sure how to address this since you just go by a screenname and called me by my name but did not bother to tell me yours.
My opinions are mine. I state them openly. Not to offend others but I was just thinking theoritically.
In the bible it says he healed the blind, sick, etc. Many of this is the same things that the Wiccans did and were blamed for being evil. How is helping someone evil?
You do not think like me and that is fine. I am not saying I believe in the bible itself. I am just saying that if it were possible this would be my take on it. My interpretation as it were.
So at least if you intend to post my name, might I have yours?
~Bella
To prod you: Which ability would that be? The ability not to banish demons, but only to send them into pigs; the ability to put a curse on fig trees for the crime of being out of season, or the ability to gather a gang of essentially thugs, start a political uprising, and be justly punished for doing so? lol.
LaMuerte, as you said there are no direct accounts that justify he was actually alive aside from the obvious one of course. I was brought up not in a religious family though I was forced to go to church. Now I do not.
To everyone else:
And everyone in the south thinks we should go to church and purge our sin before some man. I think thats funny in itself. I , as a woman should believe in some organised religion that idolizes men..why? What benefit do I recieve from it?
I never did understand the cursed part of it. A period is a curse. Its science. Its biological.
Honestly it doesnt all fit together for me. My favorite part is how John the Baptist was said to be the savior and then Jesus was born...they tryed to fix that a lot.
Any good story even has to have a logical time frame.
Wait...I should stop some 'inside the box' thinkers might have their minds exploding right now with 'new age' thoughts. Wouldn't want to do that. How wicked of me.
Thing is if you want to believe in something positive do it. Go ahead. Don't let me change your thoughts I am simply speaking my own mind.
What do I believe?
I believe that yes Jesus existed. But I think he was just a person. Maybe one with a special ability...what was that called later on...? Hummm a witch.
Didn't the christians burn them?
Okay enough thinking. Go back to being a good little drone.
~Bella
There certainly was a man named Yeshuah. The biggest question is whether or not he really was the inspiration for the Biblical account of Christ and whether he really was the miracle worker he's made out to be. Josephus and a few other historians around that time period described a couple of potential inspirations for the Gospel accounts, but none of them - not a single one - mention the dead walking the streets, no historical (or astronomical) records mention the sun going out for three days, and simply the dubious nature of the Gospels, and the fact that the earliest one was recorded 30 years after Jesus' supposed death should tell you a bit about their reliability as historical texts. Not to mention those particular works were selected at the Council of Nicaea not for their accuracy, but for their potential in bringing the 300(?) or so divisions of Christianity into some sort of uniform belief system.
So did Jesus exist (at least as everyone seems to think of him)? Probably not.
All I can say , is that I was once told by a theology/philosophy teacher of mine that there is supposedly actual proof of his existence, that he really did historically exist. Just Like the other prophets/spiritual leaders, such as Buddha, Mohamed, and Confucius. And his apostles are also known to have truly existed... After all one of them (Paul) is the founder of the Roman Catholic Church...
Otherwise if you believe in and/or know about black/white magic, his "miracles" seem much less surreal, more like a ruse/trick to get people into believing in his preachings... With this perspective in mind could his existence seem less surreal?
One piece of evidence you may or may not have been thinking of was his death warrant, which they did manage to find.
All I can say , is that I was once told by a theology/philosophy teacher of mine that there is supposedly actual proof of his existence, that he really did historically exist. Just Like the other prophets/spiritual leaders, such as Buddha, Mohamed, and Confucius. And his apostles are also known to have truly existed... After all one of them (Paul) is the founder of the Roman Catholic Church...
Otherwise if you believe in and/or know about black/white magic, his "miracles" seem much less surreal, more like a ruse/trick to get people into believing in his preachings... With this perspective in mind could his existence seem less surreal?
You may want to check out a book called The Pagan Christ. Basically it states many reasons to believe that Jesus didn't exist and was just in fact modeled on earlier pagan versions of " Christ Consciousness" especially egyptian.
I'm not one who likes to come off as crazy....okay, that's not entirely true...sometimes it's fun.
I've dabbled in witchcraftand astral projection. I was all into "Tool" and I was lovin' some "Susie and the banshees". I dug some "Type O" and Mr. Glen Danzig. I wanted life as hard and dark as I could get it. Chaos and death were some of my favorite things, but now I'm a Christian.....not because of what I've been told as much as because of what I've experienced.
I've stared a demon in the face(scared the pee out of me) and I've seen an angel..... and I've met Jesus....not physically, but spiritually.
Know what's really cool to me... that I can and do go to church Gothed-out and He still accepts me. I get some
heat from traditionalists, but I'm still
able to be myself, well when I do go to
church. I'm not all "Mr. Johnny Sunday".
Knowing that's Jesus exists usually is solidified by a/many personal expeiences in the spiritual realm and lots of people will tell you that, just
not without beating around the bush.
Okay, I'm fatigued and rambling...time to quit.
Everyone....have a great night!
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